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| | When it comes to applying aiki in daily life, it is easy to think of handling sticky situations with a tenkan type of approach: get out of the way of the incoming energy, blend with it and guide it to where you would like to go. Thusly, protecting yourself and taking gentle control of the situation. Tenkan is only half of the picture, irimi is just as prominent. I view the intercepting irimi to be just as powerful as tenkan, but I associate it with a much more aggressive demeanor. The theory, after all, is to intercept an attack just as it starts to take form. This means you must be on your toes. In social situations, one would have to be extremely perceptive to recognize an 'attack' as it forms. A few people have an uncanny ability to perceive attitudes that gives them insights of what is about to happen, but many do not. The other danger I see with irimi-style problem solving would be anticipation, which we know is bad. In the past, my initiative has helped me solve problems early before they became big. Upon reflection, that must be the heart of irimi. |
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| Lovely question, the absolute primary focus of my self-study (helped along by Ellefson sensei).
In our technique, if irimi happens, is it always the first move you make? And, uke moves irimi to attack us -- does that imply when nage moves irimi, nage is just as aggressive as uke was?
I would counter by saying irimi is not aggressive, merely the flipside of the coin. When the wind blows in your face, sometimes it feels good, sometimes not so good. But it is never angry with you, never hates you, it just is. What you do with irimi is driven mostly by your preconception of what it really is -- if you think it is something, you will make it so. I don't recall much bloodshed in class when we practice irimi techniques. 
Same with tenkan -- turning is not necessarily passive. It's just another way of getting from point A to B. What you do with it, that will reveal your true thoughts about the movement. Choyaku is another oft-overlooked method of transport, with the same implications.
That's my brief opinion anyway. This is a pretty personal question, I suspect opinion may vary wildly. Base your knowledge/opinion on experience and fact.
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| P.S.
Try giving a loved one a hug or kiss without moving irimi. 
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| Irimi and tenkan are inextricably linked.
And I do emphasize inextricable (definition):
1. So intricate or entangled as to make escape impossible: an inextricable maze; an inextricable web of deceit.
2. Difficult or impossible to disentangle or untie: an inextricable tangle of threads.
3. Too involved or complicated to solve: an inextricable problem.
2. Unavoidable; inescapable: bound together by an inextricable fate.
In other words (especially with tenkan) you can't have one without the other. It has been often said that "tenkan begins and ends with irimi". They are definitely the yin and yang of our aikido and our lives. Knowing when to use them is the important thing. More often than not, we should follow our gut instinct (as long as that instinct isn't tainted by anger, jealously, or any other host of negative emotions). So, for our irimi or tenkan to work and be appropriate in energy, we first must be in control of ourselves. Masakatsu agatsu!
*Mike
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| I'll further Ellefson sensei's post and say that any emotion makes your actions subject to scrutiny, be it anger, hate, or love.
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| | "tenkan begins and ends with irimi" Ahh, I see! Essentially, you must always move first - toward your opponent - regardless of which way you will choose to move. Irimi will continue that movement straight on through, whereas with tenkan the movement changes direction to blend. When Phil had us practicing his neat little 3-man drill at randori practice a few weeks ago, it reinforced this principle. You must always move toward your attacker. You get no opportunity for control if you are too far away from him. Back to the original point of this thread (the 'in everyday life' part), I am reflecting on how this would work in confrontation. Specifically, I am imagining a situation wherein someone is getting in your face trying to provoke a fight. You must move in close, not in a physical sense (although probably that too) but in a verbal one. |
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| Anyone care to tackle the question from class tonight? I stated that irimi cannot exist without tenkan, and vice-versa. Ellefson sensei stated that tenkan requires irimi, and so, the opposite should be true to support the theory.
What do you say?
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| | Brain... hurts.... Seriously, the phrase 'tenkan starts and ends with irimi' rang a bell with me. I reflected that each time I've done tenkan to my satisfaction (both times ), it has required that I moved into uke's attack, ever so slightly, in a direct way. In practical terms, it is I who adjust to control the range. The end of the tenkan technique is when you change direction (turn) into uke. Really, that is moving irimi only describing it in more nuts-and-bolts terms. The part that has me thinking is exactly how tenkan is ever-present in irimi movements. Class last night showed the influence of tenkan in iriminage. I'm trying to see the same influence in say, shomenuchi ikkyo, which to me is a trademark irimi movement (the irimi version of shomenuchi ikkyo, that is). I do see that if you boil the concept of tenkan down to a turn, then it is ever present in aikido. How can you have aikido with no turns? Can't happen. It just wouldn't be aikido anymore. The same holds true with irimi, which I associate with direct lines. How could you have aikido without direct lines? Also can't happen, again - it wouldn't be aikido. It would be kinda interesting to watch, however. It would probably look like bad ballet. |
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